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. and the republicans, boehner's got to go to work and come back, and now there's 70 of them left, the tea party guys. these are guys who went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we've got five democrats, five republicans who range from dick durbin of illinois, great progressive democrat, and coburn of oklahoma, a progressive conservative, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake, the reason we were so successful is we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 6th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, msnbc political analyst, former democratic congressman, harold ford jr. >> mr. professor. >> good morning. >> professor. >> and we have former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst, steve rattner. >> financier. >> rattner is here. i like -- and we have to go back to that. it's the truth. >> it is! >> money is money. >> in washington, msnbc and "time" senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> we sa
john boehner trying to negotiate a deal to keep the u.s. from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. house republicans meeting right now and we expect to hear from the house speaker at the top of the hour. dana bash, capitol hill, following the negotiations. how many times have i said fiscal cliff over the past couple months, i can't even, if i had a nickel for every time i'd be a wealthy man. >> we'd be able to avert the fiscal cliff. >> exactly, very good, so much more clever and quicker than i am. dana good morning. the president and the house speaker offered new proposals. what do you know about them, if anything? >> reporter: you know, they're being very, very careful, they're holding their cards close to the vest, which i think you know as a reporter is frustrating but as somebody who certainly wants to get, to see this solved, that that is a completely nonpart son thing to say. it maybe is a good sign, because both sides are being very careful not to let the cat out of the bag on some of the specifics because they don't want the process to blow up even before it really starts
would raise taxes for the wealthiest americans. he met yesterday with house speaker john boehner, their first face to face meeting in more than three weeks. today the president will visit a detroit engine factory to rally support from auto workers. the president's meeting with speaker boehner didn't yield a big breakthrough, but the men did manage to agree on one thing, and that is that they will keep their negotiations behind closed doors. the men released this identical statement, saying this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. we're not reading out details of the conversation, but the lines of communication remain open. cnn's dan lothian is at the white house this morning. dan, i guess the fact that the lines of communication are open is a good sign. >> reporter: that's right. it is a good sign. it was just about a week ago that we were reporting about how nothing was going on, not in public and not in private. aides up on the hill, republican aides telling us there were no phone calls, no e-mails,
and speaker boehner met privately at the white house. their first face-to-face meeting since they agreed last week to clear everyone else out of the negotiating room. neither side revealed anything about the meeting that was part of the agreement. only saying that the lines of communication remain open. but yesterday another influential republican, senator bob corker from the senate banking committee, said his party should consider the president's position on raising tax rates on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate's in the democrats' hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%, and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. i actually am beginning to believe that is the best route for us to take. >> that's significant, and jon, t
speaker boehner are going mano e mano in negotiations. >> let's bring in george stephanopoulos. george, i'm going to ask this question until this thing is over. >> we had another week of massive trash-talking, are we closer or further away from getting a deal? >> it's hard to know. but they're not really talking right now. that's what's most incredible. you pointed out that there were speeches all week long. symbolic votes in the senate. lot of brinksmanship. lot of ads on television. less than an hour of actual negotiating. one phone call between john boehner, house peeker and the president. democrats say they're not going to move until the republicans say they're going to be for higher tax rates on the wealthy. and then say what they want in return. in terms of spending cuts for those higher tax rates. the republicans say they aren't going to come forward until the democrats say more about how they want to cut spending. right now, we're stuck. now, it could be the well that is getting poisoned right now, as positions are going to harden but with all of these negotiations they sometimes
source simply noted that boehner met with the president for 40 minutes on sunday and they didn't spend that time talking golf and football. today, much of the focus has been on public discord. democrats are hardly united. >> we get nervous in our caucus, don't we, about these secret meetings. >> reporter: the president has his work cut out for him, getting some in his own party to agree to a deal that includes significant cuts in changes to safety net programs. >> to all of why you negotiators negotiating on this so-called fiscal cliff and stuff, keep your hands off medicare and keep your hands off medicaid. >> we're not budging on medicare and we're not budging on medicaid. >> on taxes, a democratic source tells cnn they also won't budge on raising tax rates for families making $250,000 or more but could ultimately accept something short of the 39.6% tax rate democrats campaigned on. still, the senate's top democrat wasps mystic about a deal in the next 14 days. >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> reporter: now, wolf, part of that pessim
to get a deal with the house speaker john boehner over taxes and spending cuts. our chief political analyst gloria borger is here to take a closer look at the agreements, the disagreements, i guess there's more disagreements than agreements. let's step back and see where these two sides stand, gloria. >> let's step back from the cliff here for a minute, wolf. and you'll see that on tax, which is of course the crux of this matter, there's a huge difference between congressional republicans who want to raise $800 billion over ten years from tax increases. and of course the white house that wants to, you know, basically double that. i mean, the white house says, we need to get more revenue from taxes. if you break apart these tax number, take a look, because of course we know, the big issue, the theological issue here, wolf, is raising rates. the white house says let's raise them back to bill clinton's days. and the republicans of course say, no way, let's not raise those rates. here's what's really interesting to me, though. both sides say in the future they want to do the same thing.
the fiscal cliff. mr. obama and house speaker john boehner took a step yesterday, speaking about the standoff on the phone. i guess at least they weren't texting, right? while the details of their chat remain private, both men continued to talk past each other in public. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. >> there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more, more of their money to the federal government, without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> treasury secretary tim geithner also weighed in yesterday saying the president is willing to allow the nation to go over the cliff if republicans don't agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >>> we are learning new details about colorado's shooting suspect james holmes now that thousands of e-mails in the case have been released. messages indicate holmes may have had a brief romantic relationship in the days before the tragedy. we have learned that in early june, holmes began specifically talking and fantasizing about killing a lot of people. his psychiatrist was so worri
. >> thank you, karen. obviously boehner put his counterproposal on the table. conservatives in his party are not happy about what he has put down. republicans are defending that saying, wait a minute. the fact that some folks in our party are angry means our proposal is actually a compromise. the president's was not. that's how they're kind of, you know, explaining some of the dissension within their own ranges, saying, sign of a real compromise, they have now put forward. >> really what they're hung up on is the tax rate dispute at the end of the day. >> for the top 2%. the president, gave an interview and flat out said unless you all degree that the tax rates -- not the revenue, but the tax rates go up, there is no deal. >> although last year, 2011, the president said, maybe we can, generate more revenue just by eliminating these tax loopholes. he didn't mention anything about tax increases. but then he says, well, you come to the table and it all comes down to math. it didn't add up. that's why he needs tax increases. >> elections change things. >> math. >>> well, there will be a full
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